Waxangel

United States31485 Posts

AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

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Nakajin

Canada8111 Posts

On one hand I’m kind of happy that Kato will be played on a new patch and on new maps and that stuff will be fresh, on the other hand it really feel like a cheap shot to the players.

I would be livid if I had to throw out months of preps just week before the biggest event of the year.

The_Red_Viper

19383 Posts

On January 04 2023 11:45 Nakajin wrote:
On one hand I’m kind of happy that Kato will be played on a new patch and on new maps and that stuff will be fresh, on the other hand it really feel like a cheap shot to the players.

I would be livid if I had to throw out months of preps just week before the biggest event of the year.

They still have 4 weeks to prepare for these maps, that’s easily enough time to do so, especially because all these “new maps” are more or less just the same archetypes of maps we’ve seen since forever with new skins on top.

The balance patch is a bigger issue, and that one will likely hit before katowice too i imagine.

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buzz_bender

375 Posts

On January 04 2023 11:45 Nakajin wrote:
On one hand I’m kind of happy that Kato will be played on a new patch and on new maps and that stuff will be fresh, on the other hand it really feel like a cheap shot to the players.

I would be livid if I had to throw out months of preps just week before the biggest event of the year.

I’m almost certain that they would have told/announced that to the players before the public announcement of these new ladder maps. It was like that for DH Valencia where the players were already practising on these new maps way before they announced it.

luxon

United States36 Posts

Showtime mentioned they already knew about it but were not allowed to announce it, which is why he wasnt sure if he could play them on stream today. The patch hitting before Katowice would be wild, and incredibly unfair imo, esp since the online discussion atm is that it’s quite poorly balanced. Literally could be taking 10% of some players’ annual income away because of some untested experiment.
tigera6

1864 Posts

To quote my own post

On January 04 2023 10:09 tigera6 wrote:
So they removed all the short distance map with potential for 2 base all-in and give back the standard macro 7-8 base map? And this happen at the same time with Ghost nerf? Why am I not suprised about this?

And I am just not a fan of having huge change right into a big tournament without having extensive public play testing before that. I know players are aware of this and have been practicing it, but they probably wont reveal any possible bug or glitch with the map until the main tournament time, aka Parting vs Solar.

Beelzebub1

905 Posts

This patch going through before IEM is unacceptable, they are still making changes to it and some of the changes are still highly questionable and definitely in need of further testing.
Athenau

447 Posts

Better the patch go in ASAP (as in this week) rather than being shoved in right before Katowice. At least that way they have a month to make adjustments, and if it truly is broken then people can raise a stink about it.
geokilla

Canada8011 Posts

Of course the game gets patched before the biggest tournament of the circuit where winning literally means everything. I wish ESL would take the approach Riot does with League of Legends.

Mizenhauer

United States1110 Posts

How easily we forget that blizz once did a balance change two days before a Code S Semifinal. This is a gift compared to that.

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buzz_bender

375 Posts

Can anyone who watched Wardii’s TLMC tournament on these maps comment on them? I don’t know what to make of these maps and who they favour. It does look like Terran 2-base all-in will not work on these maps.

digmouse

China6020 Posts

Big balance patch hitting right before Katowice is absurd, either do it now and give players time to adapt or stick to tradition and only release them after major tournaments.

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syndbg

34 Posts

On January 04 2023 17:44 digmouse wrote:
Big balance patch hitting right before Katowice is absurd, either do it now and give players time to adapt or stick to tradition and only release them after major tournaments.

Why do you think the players don’t know, test or practice on the PTR changes way before it’s released?

Besides its 4 weeks in advance.

Source: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/605169-new-ladder-maps-announced-used-at-iem-katowice